Talk:Hylian

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Contents 1 Do Hylian knights need to be mentioned here? 2 Why? 3 Terminans 4 Ears? 5 Dark Ridley 6 Re: Terminans 7 Gallery 8 Famous members

[edit] Do Hylian knights need to be mentioned here?

I don’t think it is necessary to mention the Hylian knights since being a knight simply makes you part of an army not different from other members of your race. We shouldn’t include the Hylian Knights in this article anymore than we should include Hylian Blacksmiths, Hylian shop keepers, or all the other occupations they get into.

AuronKaizer - "Fun fun fun in the fluffy chair, flame up the herb, woof down the beer." TALK - THE LIST - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WIDGETS - ToC - SUGGESTIONS Yeah, they should be given their own article (the Knights).

[edit] Why?

Why, when I look at pages for characters whose race was never specified, is the race designation Hylian? Is it the general policy here to automatically consider a character a Hylian until proven otherwise? Just wanna know... Bek The Conqueror 04:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

AuronKaizer - "OHMYGODI'MONFIRE!" TALK - THE LIST - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WIDGETS - ToC - SUGGESTIONS The ears, dude. Of course, the characters having pointy ears may not be conclusive evidence that they are actually Hylian and not of another race with pointy ears. But it's the only choice we got, really.

Bek The Conqueror – "I suffer from aviophobia! It means fear of dying in something that flies!" -Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy TALK But what about characters from the 2D games? The ears aren't really well defined there...

[edit] Terminans

The issue is covered here.

I've already given the (as I've been told) "correct" opinion on that site and in the article itself. My question is this: Which should we use for the race of Hylians from Termina?

1. Terminan (keep it the same)
2. Hylian (technically correct)
3. Hylian (Terminan) (compromise)
4. Hylian ("Terminan") (quotes because the term is not official)
5. "Terminan"

In my opinion, 2 is best, as the homeland of Termina is given, but I'll settle for 3 or 4. 5 is a bit of a stretch. 1, I suppose, is a possibility if everyone is way too lazy, but it should be corrected.

AuronKaizer - "GET OUT." TALK - THE LIST - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WIDGETS - ToC - SUGGESTIONS Umm, excuse me. You're basing the completely unwarranted move of a popular page on a discussion on Minimalistpedia? I don't get it. I opt for the "Terminan" usage, but I guess since no official source ever cites this name (thus making it as official as the guy who tried making an article for "Holodrumanics" the other day) we can't really use that. I would suggest "Terminan Hylian", but that's just me.

Sure, "Terminan Hylian" works for me. It is moving the page, but as we agree, "Terminan" isn't used by any sources, so let's be consistent. I do think that "Terminans" deserve at least a section, though, as the term is common. Time to change a bunch of infoboxes...

P. S. What about characters in both OoT and MM (Dampé, for example)? Should we just use "Hylian", or "Hylian (blah blah)...Terminan Hylian (Majora's Mask)"? The second sounds awkward, and people might disagree with the first, so how about "Hylian (known as Terminan in Majora's Mask)"?

All right, time for some flawless, unescapable logic.Humans and Hylians are two species, That's been made clear by the ears, then calling them Teminan Hylians is for lack of a better word, idiotic. Do we call humans living America "American Humans"? No, we just call them Americans.User:Redeadhunter

[edit] Ears?

Metroidhunter32 – I have created a tournament of heroes. TALK – Vote upon it. It just struck me that the reason for the ears is that although the wanted to give link ears, they didn't have the graphical capability to round them. Opinions?

they wouldnt make it soprominint in the offical art work and have you seen the size of links ears comparded to other people in zelda ii? Oni Dark Link

[edit] Dark Ridley

Awesome! I remember those pictures from the original guide book. I've misplaced mine since I have moved around quite a bit, so it's wonderful to see them again. Any plans on adding more information from the guide? //Khanson

[edit] Re: Terminans

Xykeb Zraliv – Instead of making the moon hit Termina faster, use your energy to give it a face. Your weapon of mass destruction may as well look nice. TALK – REVIEWS - MAJORA'S MASK WALKTHROUGH - ORACLE OF AGES WALKTHROUGH - TOP TEN I disagree that the residents of Termina are so called "Terminan Hylians". This view seems biased towards the Hylians - we seem to be taking things solely from their perspective. Yes, Hyrule was named after the race - but what if that's also the case of the Terminans (as I will call them unless somebody offers me a reason to change my opinion)? What if they called themselves Terminans and then named the land Termina? From their perspective, the Hylians are therefore "Hylian Terminans". Yes, biologically they are the same race, but the term "Terminan Hylian" seems wrong to me for the reasons above. It just seems like we're delving too deep into technicalities and ending up with barely correct results.

AuronKaizer - "Seems like everywhere I go, everybody wants to know: how'd someone like me "...get so lucky, you little jerk?" Well, the questions of these idiots are really quite inconvenient, especially when I'm trying to forget that luck had anything to do with it; it was all hard work. And clean living. NOW GET ME A DRINK!" TALK - THE LIST - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WIDGETS - ToC - SUGGESTIONS 23:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC) Hyrule was named after Hylians? Erm? Another canonical guidebook thing? No matter. The term "Terminan Hylian" is used for people who are assumed to be Hylians (yay, another gross act of possibly, or should I say probable wrongful deduction...I don't think pointy ears equals Hylian by default) and are from Termina. Not all Terminan inhabitants. And wait...you're claiming that it's "biased"? That might just be some awkward wording on the part of whomever originally coined the term Terminan Hylian. And yes, I am very aware that you knew all of this already; it's just because I have no argument (neither does anyone else) I thought I'd nitpick instead. That being said, I really don't care either way, so just go ahead and update all the pages to reflect whatever you feel like calling them. There will never be a conclusive answer to this and one person's word is both as good and as bad as the other.

Xykeb Zraliv – Instead of making the moon hit Termina faster, use your energy to give it a face. Your weapon of mass destruction may as well look nice. TALK – REVIEWS - MAJORA'S MASK WALKTHROUGH - ORACLE OF AGES WALKTHROUGH - TOP TEN What the term "Terminan Hylians" implies is that Hylians named the land after the race, but that Terminans were named after the land, thus making them "technically" Hylians. What it fails to take into account, however, is that it is just as likely that the Terminans named their land after the race, thus making them biologically the same race, but with two different names, making "Terminan Hylian" a biased term (in my opinion), since it's implying that "Hylian" is the base name of the entire race. Also, I'd rather get some support from people before changing it...wouldn't do to have a whole bunch of people disagree with me after changing it all and then have to change it back.

EveryDayJoe45 – "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil) TALK Are you suggesting that we make up some random name for them like Telias? Because if so, that is absurd. If you are proposing they should just be called regular "Hylians", than I sort of agree.

Xykeb Zraliv – Instead of making the moon hit Termina faster, use your energy to give it a face. Your weapon of mass destruction may as well look nice. TALK – REVIEWS - MAJORA'S MASK WALKTHROUGH - ORACLE OF AGES WALKTHROUGH - TOP TEN Absolutely not, my entire argument is against relating them to the Hylians at all. I say we should simply call them Terminans.

EveryDayJoe45 – "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."--Abraham Lincoln TALK Hmmm, well I sort of disagree. Hylians are not named Hyruleans, they are named Hylians. Now with that said, Gorons, Zoras, Deku, and Gerudos are all called the same in both games. So wouldnt that mean that Hylians should be the same as well? I mean Terminans probably means every inhabitant of the land of Termina.

Xykeb Zraliv – Instead of making the moon hit Termina faster, use your energy to give it a face. Your weapon of mass destruction may as well look nice. TALK – REVIEWS - MAJORA'S MASK WALKTHROUGH - ORACLE OF AGES WALKTHROUGH - TOP TEN Er...that actually makes a whole lot of sense. Fine, Hylians it is.

EveryDayJoe45 – "You want the key, and I want you dead, so we can make this work"--Stalfos (The Legend of Neil) TALK Well this will undoubtedly be too hard to fix all in one sitting. So unless you have a better plan, all we can really do is change it when we come upon changes we need to make.

[edit] Gallery

Are those really official pictures of Hylians? They look so phony.02:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)

Metroidhunter32 – I have created a tournament of heroes. TALK – Vote upon it. They look Mexican. Not Hylian.

Exactly! Should we get rid of the pictures, as they just look like Mexican people with pointy ears?03:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)

I agree. If we've never seen them looking like that, why is it considered official? Baltro [ talk · edits ] 03:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, then, let's get rid of them. I'll do it if no one else will.03:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)

[edit] Famous members

Baltro - "I never finish anythi (03:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)) - TALK - CONTRIBUTIONS - EDIT COUNT Could we shorten the famous/notable members section? Not all of them are that notable.